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leoniedelt at 09:18am on 01/08/2008 under david tennant, hamlet, patrick stewart, pregnancy, yay
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or, also known as Why I Have Brilliant Kidneys.
So, MIL came over and watched R for about 30 minutes so i could get an earlier bus, to get an earlier train. I got to Stratford at about 17.22pm. I found my way to Adelphi Guest House easily enough, its about 7 minutes walk (for the 33wk pregnant lady) from the station. Lovely people, i paid cash, they gave me keys. I was drenched in sweat so had to do something about being wringing wet.
I got dressed, ate some sandwiches i had bought at Boots in New St on the way there, painted my face and changed, and generally freshened up. Left Adelphi at about 6.45pm, to walk there - i had remembered my way around, funnily enough, and knew that Adelphi was situated about ten minutes' walk from the Courtyard.
Got there in time to pee, and get my seat. Show started at 19.15 prompt. The seats are narrow (or my arse has gotten bigger, i think its both!) and there's no place to put your arms, no armrests, so i had to drape them overtop Bethany, which did not make her happy at all. With every loud crash, boom and bang or shout, she kicked or punched me - don't blame her really, but made for a very uncomfortable me - no place to put my arms, kid sitting on my bladder, ankles swelling with every passing moment, not even enough room to sit on one foot to help keep it 'elevated' :/
So the interval was at 21.15, for 20 minutes. I spent 15 of that in a queue for the loo. No one had ANY sympathy for my cankles or the fact that i was busting with someone sitting ON my bladder, but, that's how it goes. I peed, bought a bottle of water and ate a brownie i had stashed in my bag. In fact, i was so rushed, i was eating it while i walked back to my seat. Interval needs to be longer, or more loos when there's a full house / not a seat to spare.
Show ended at 22:50 i think, or so. I didnt really notice the clock. I again had to PEE! so had to miss some of the autographing / getting a place in that queue, because i was again in the queue for the john.
David went out the back to the 'stage door' as it is euphamistically called, as did Patrick. They were fucking *MOBBED* - it was like a paparazzi scene swarming over Britney Spears with her bits hanging out of a dress again. Not a chance of hell of me seeing them, or begging for an autograph. I was pushed, almost knocked over, people kept ramming into my belly, just to see David. I stood back, there was no point in even trying. They signed about 3 autographs, and then disappeared - do you blame them?
Me and a few others thought we might wait round to see if the actors came out later, so i waited til midnight, but there must be a third door they all escaped through, because they were locking the building, and it was pissing rain when i left. Short ten minute walk back to my room, drenched by time i got back for hte night. I made my obligatory hot choc, settled down and dropped off quickly despite having ankles the size of TREE TRUNKS.
So. Hamlet itself:
I thought David pulled on several performances to make his Hamlet. His accent was all over the place - from RP to Estuary to Glasgow. I heard it all. I saw the Doctor several times especially in how he said 'well' and 'but', I saw the lunacy of Taking over the Asylum, a bit of the hard bastard in Secret Smile, and definitely saw something new at the same time. Perhaps I was looking too hard. I dunno - i wasn't *that* impressed. He is a slip of a man, i'd say he wears a 30 waist in trousers. There isnt much to him - tv adds 2 stone at least.
Patrick had 2 roles and I thought he did both very well, but unfortunately, there wasn't that much for him to do as either one. What emotions he had to show, he did well. He makes everything seem so majestic, like a king were speaking. He didn't have to shout to command your attention, like some of the other actors did, he was more soft spoken, and his accent crystal clear (not tainted after all those years in LA making Trek movies). And he's still sex on legs, to boot. He brought such an air to the whole thing, it was breathtaking. If i were to pick one over the other, i'd choose Patrick every time.
The play itself: I thought it went on too long. lol. Not just because of my bladder, but because by time the interval came, i was DYING to get out of my chair and go do something. I was almost *bored* - like a child really. My attention span had been stretched by the almost complete lack of scenery or props, and monologue after monologue, i thought they should've DONE more and TALKED less. Pages and pages, reams and reams of Shakespearean exposition (thees and thous and all that crap) and nil action. Perhaps i'm spoiled to Henry IV, as that's the only other performance i've seen there, but they had sword fights and people climbing down from the ceiling and exploding bags of blood all over your lap... ;)
The ending was foist upon me all of a sudden, i thought - the plot to spar with Hamlet and kill him was confusing and it was unclear as to why Laertes would want to and agree to do such a thing, or indeed why his relationship would be soured with Hamlet to begin with, except the bit with Ophelia's grave. In fact, i didnt know who the fuck he was supposed to be until i heard someone say they were brothers. And who Ophelia was to them, i was also unclear on - why Laertes called her sister but Hamlet wanted to shag her. It was unclear to those of us on the far side of the stage who Hamlet shot with his gun after yelling at his mother and then climbing in her lap for a cuddle - apparently it was Ophelia's dad, the funny politician guy who comically droned on and on, but we couldn't even see a body, let alone which one it was. Though the men in the audience enjoyed Ophelia stripping down to her pants and bra, i'm sure - she was a gorgeous young lady.
So, rocks fall and everyone dies - Gertrude of poison, Claudius of poison, Hamlet and Laertes of sword swipes to the neck. And that bit happened in like 20 minutes, when the play was 3 hrs, 30 minutes long!
IMHO it needs less talk, more action. And i've never ever thought of myself as a person with a short attention span, or easily bored. Hell, i enjoyed Henry IV so much, even when David Warner wasn't there, it was still a brilliant play where i could understand what was happening, even if i couldn't recall ever having read the play beforehand or knowing the plot before watching it. This one however, you REALLY needed to have read the book, it seems.
Still, i had a most enjoyable time, except one quibble with Adelphi - they only serve brekky starting at 8am. Their excuse? They don't get a day off, so they're not getting up early. Thanks a LOT. Umm, hello, my husband was on kid duty and my train departed at 7.23. I didnt get to eat, even though i paid for it - Bed and BREAKFAST :/
Incidentally i was up at 5.40, unable to sleep any more, and i got a shower and walked down to McDs to get mcBreakfast and still got to the train station in plenty of time to get back home by 9. But still. Brekky might've been nice, i fucking well paid for it!
My ankles were normal size this morning, YAY. I have kidneys of STEEL. They're swollen again now from all the walking to McDs, to the train statin, and various bits of walking to get home this morning, but man am i glad to be here.
So that's my thoughts, experience, and everything, of Hamlet. Worth seeing, if only to see the two men in their glory - they were clearly enjoying themselves.
I got dressed, ate some sandwiches i had bought at Boots in New St on the way there, painted my face and changed, and generally freshened up. Left Adelphi at about 6.45pm, to walk there - i had remembered my way around, funnily enough, and knew that Adelphi was situated about ten minutes' walk from the Courtyard.
Got there in time to pee, and get my seat. Show started at 19.15 prompt. The seats are narrow (or my arse has gotten bigger, i think its both!) and there's no place to put your arms, no armrests, so i had to drape them overtop Bethany, which did not make her happy at all. With every loud crash, boom and bang or shout, she kicked or punched me - don't blame her really, but made for a very uncomfortable me - no place to put my arms, kid sitting on my bladder, ankles swelling with every passing moment, not even enough room to sit on one foot to help keep it 'elevated' :/
So the interval was at 21.15, for 20 minutes. I spent 15 of that in a queue for the loo. No one had ANY sympathy for my cankles or the fact that i was busting with someone sitting ON my bladder, but, that's how it goes. I peed, bought a bottle of water and ate a brownie i had stashed in my bag. In fact, i was so rushed, i was eating it while i walked back to my seat. Interval needs to be longer, or more loos when there's a full house / not a seat to spare.
Show ended at 22:50 i think, or so. I didnt really notice the clock. I again had to PEE! so had to miss some of the autographing / getting a place in that queue, because i was again in the queue for the john.
David went out the back to the 'stage door' as it is euphamistically called, as did Patrick. They were fucking *MOBBED* - it was like a paparazzi scene swarming over Britney Spears with her bits hanging out of a dress again. Not a chance of hell of me seeing them, or begging for an autograph. I was pushed, almost knocked over, people kept ramming into my belly, just to see David. I stood back, there was no point in even trying. They signed about 3 autographs, and then disappeared - do you blame them?
Me and a few others thought we might wait round to see if the actors came out later, so i waited til midnight, but there must be a third door they all escaped through, because they were locking the building, and it was pissing rain when i left. Short ten minute walk back to my room, drenched by time i got back for hte night. I made my obligatory hot choc, settled down and dropped off quickly despite having ankles the size of TREE TRUNKS.
So. Hamlet itself:
I thought David pulled on several performances to make his Hamlet. His accent was all over the place - from RP to Estuary to Glasgow. I heard it all. I saw the Doctor several times especially in how he said 'well' and 'but', I saw the lunacy of Taking over the Asylum, a bit of the hard bastard in Secret Smile, and definitely saw something new at the same time. Perhaps I was looking too hard. I dunno - i wasn't *that* impressed. He is a slip of a man, i'd say he wears a 30 waist in trousers. There isnt much to him - tv adds 2 stone at least.
Patrick had 2 roles and I thought he did both very well, but unfortunately, there wasn't that much for him to do as either one. What emotions he had to show, he did well. He makes everything seem so majestic, like a king were speaking. He didn't have to shout to command your attention, like some of the other actors did, he was more soft spoken, and his accent crystal clear (not tainted after all those years in LA making Trek movies). And he's still sex on legs, to boot. He brought such an air to the whole thing, it was breathtaking. If i were to pick one over the other, i'd choose Patrick every time.
The play itself: I thought it went on too long. lol. Not just because of my bladder, but because by time the interval came, i was DYING to get out of my chair and go do something. I was almost *bored* - like a child really. My attention span had been stretched by the almost complete lack of scenery or props, and monologue after monologue, i thought they should've DONE more and TALKED less. Pages and pages, reams and reams of Shakespearean exposition (thees and thous and all that crap) and nil action. Perhaps i'm spoiled to Henry IV, as that's the only other performance i've seen there, but they had sword fights and people climbing down from the ceiling and exploding bags of blood all over your lap... ;)
The ending was foist upon me all of a sudden, i thought - the plot to spar with Hamlet and kill him was confusing and it was unclear as to why Laertes would want to and agree to do such a thing, or indeed why his relationship would be soured with Hamlet to begin with, except the bit with Ophelia's grave. In fact, i didnt know who the fuck he was supposed to be until i heard someone say they were brothers. And who Ophelia was to them, i was also unclear on - why Laertes called her sister but Hamlet wanted to shag her. It was unclear to those of us on the far side of the stage who Hamlet shot with his gun after yelling at his mother and then climbing in her lap for a cuddle - apparently it was Ophelia's dad, the funny politician guy who comically droned on and on, but we couldn't even see a body, let alone which one it was. Though the men in the audience enjoyed Ophelia stripping down to her pants and bra, i'm sure - she was a gorgeous young lady.
So, rocks fall and everyone dies - Gertrude of poison, Claudius of poison, Hamlet and Laertes of sword swipes to the neck. And that bit happened in like 20 minutes, when the play was 3 hrs, 30 minutes long!
IMHO it needs less talk, more action. And i've never ever thought of myself as a person with a short attention span, or easily bored. Hell, i enjoyed Henry IV so much, even when David Warner wasn't there, it was still a brilliant play where i could understand what was happening, even if i couldn't recall ever having read the play beforehand or knowing the plot before watching it. This one however, you REALLY needed to have read the book, it seems.
Still, i had a most enjoyable time, except one quibble with Adelphi - they only serve brekky starting at 8am. Their excuse? They don't get a day off, so they're not getting up early. Thanks a LOT. Umm, hello, my husband was on kid duty and my train departed at 7.23. I didnt get to eat, even though i paid for it - Bed and BREAKFAST :/
Incidentally i was up at 5.40, unable to sleep any more, and i got a shower and walked down to McDs to get mcBreakfast and still got to the train station in plenty of time to get back home by 9. But still. Brekky might've been nice, i fucking well paid for it!
My ankles were normal size this morning, YAY. I have kidneys of STEEL. They're swollen again now from all the walking to McDs, to the train statin, and various bits of walking to get home this morning, but man am i glad to be here.
So that's my thoughts, experience, and everything, of Hamlet. Worth seeing, if only to see the two men in their glory - they were clearly enjoying themselves.
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I know exactly what you mean about boredom. I quite like Shakespeare, but it all depends on the way the plays are directed I think, because they can be awfully boring if they're not spiced up with a bit of pizzazz. Two hours of thees and thous and verilies can be hard to endure.
It's a shame that the other audience members couldnl't be more considerate and let the pregnant lady nip to the front of the toilet queue.
I think Tennant is less than a 30 waist. I'm a 30 waist and I'm pretty sure he's skinnier than me. Or maybe he's just taller and that makes him seem skinnier?
I agree that the B&B should have given you breakfast. You're the paying guest, they should accomodate you. If not, the bill should be reduced.
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Tennant could be a 28 waist, even. He sure is a skinny fuck - one good gust of wind and he'd be knocked over. Really skinny little man, wearing red pants beneath his jeans in one scene (they matched his red t-shirt - coincidence you ask? I doubt it)...
With my thyroid back up to where it should be, i have a lot of stamina. Even with 5lb tiny people tapdancing on me wee bladder :) I take great pride in being able to walk miles, and am relieved beyond words that i can continue to walk lots without falling asleep every time i sit down.
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It really was like suddenly that bit was from a different play altogether. Hamlet up until that point had been a lot of pointless yelling and shouting and pontificating, and the most energetic scene was the one where Hamlet yelled at his momma in her bedroom - there was almost fisticuffs...
So suddenly they break out the swords and kill each other? Eh?
Really, it kindof jarred. I dont think i said that clearly enough in my original post so i'm putting it here.
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Bit of explanation for you from a Shakespeare scholar:
Laertes and Ophelia are siblings. Hamlet is from a separate family, but he has grown up with them, as their father was close to Hamlet's father. Hamlet/Laertes have a kind of childhood rivalry. Ophelia has always been in love with Hamlet, and vice versa. It's generally expected that they will get married.
Laertes agreed to the match/murder because he believed that Hamlet had caused his sister (Ophelia) to kill herself, by pretending to be mad and telling her to get lost. The scene by the graveside, when Hamlet went OTT on the grief, made Laertes really furious, because he though Hamlet had no right to.
They eventually apologise to eachother before Laertes dies.
Anything else you're perplexed about?
(I adore Hamlet in case you couldn't tell. *grins*)
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In the show last night, it was Laertes who went OTT in grief, he got in the grave with her and was hugging her corpse FFS! At least Hamlet didnt climb in...
They also played down the Ophelia/Hamlet romance. We saw no signs of hugging or kissing or signs of any romance between them at all, in fact, the few scenes they shared together was him spurning her because he was 'mad' or her spurning him to set him up for Polonius and Claudius to see as they watched from behind a mirrored wall...
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As for the Laertes-grief bit - forgot about that. The grief I meant was the bit when Hamlet's all "forty thousand brothers could not, with all their quantity of love, make up my sum” (V.i.254–256). Then he tries to one up Laertes, saying that he would do things for Ophelia that Laertes could not dream of: eat a crocodile for her, he would be buried alive with her... etc.
I think Shakespeare all depends on the director. Maybe this guy is of the opinion that people watching Shakespeare should know the play as well as he does? Not the best thought process, but one I have seen many a time.
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Still, thanks for helping me understand!
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I'm sorry. If you can, get hold of the Derek Jacobi BBC version. Bit more action, interesting scenery and it's still got Patrick Stewart!
(Plus - LALLA WARD AS OPHELIA!)
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It was spoken as if to say, 'hey whatsyourface, i knew Yorick, didnt i?! and oh crap looky me, i'm holding his skull because the gravedigger is from Teh Norf and has an odd sense of humour...' it was spoken strangely and had an odd effect on the whole scene - going on about kissing Yorick's lips was weird too, not sure if that is in the original script, but ick.
The To Be or not to be bit was laborious and looked like David quoting Shakespeare, not someone actually speaking.
I will look out for it - hopefully it wont make me feel itchy and bored, kwim?
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Sad you didn't really enjoy it, but I guess we went to it for different reasons. *shrugs*
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But, i had quibbles. Shrug.
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It sounds like it was a bit disappointing(?) - I've seen a few Shakespeare plays as mum takes me to watch them whenever there's one on, and it always seems to be the more serious ones that aren't as good..
Am resisting the urge to have a big geek-out over Hamlet plot and stuff, because it would probably be horrendously annoying. I just really love this play :D
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Yeah i was a bit disappointed, but not enough to really regret it, it was a fantastic show, i just had some quibbles.