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posted by [personal profile] leoniedelt at 06:52pm on 13/09/2007 under
I slightly alter my McCann theory:

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They left Maddie and the twins alone. Like they did every night on hols so they could get drunk with mates.
Maddie didnt sleep. (i read she was HFA, explains the sleeping problem!)
Maddie got into Daddy's pillbox and ate all his sleepers.  Died.
Mommy or Daddy returns and finds her dead. One tells the other, they both know.
Panic, knowing they are finished as doctors with their kid dead of that many pills, and guilty of serious child neglect.
Invent abduction theory. Mates possibly told as alibis.
They hide the body somewhere, alibis covering for whoever is hiding it.
25+ days later, friends move it permanently while they were jet-setting around Europe seeing the Pope.

Stupid, and i can understand panicking, knowing what they did was wrong (leaving her alone to get into daddy's, or mommy's pills)... but lying to the world?

Sigh. this whole damn thing really has me upset. As someone on long term medication myself, i have to be extra neurotic in the day that pumpkin doesnt find my stash or the ones I have to carry with me to take twice in the day. You just put yourself in their shoes, and then instinctively put the stash of goodies a little higher out of reach, kwim?

Then again, i've never even napped while pumpkin was in my care - i've been fully aware of her movements day in day out. Oh, i get caught out by the odd surprise now and then, while i'm doing dishes or some cleaning, she draws on the tv in crayon or something kid-like... but she has never found or eaten one of my pills.

still. scares the pants off of me.
Mood:: 'bothered' bothered
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posted by [identity profile] schmusimausi73.livejournal.com at 06:24pm on 13/09/2007
That's really possible. By the way, what is HFA?
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 06:46pm on 13/09/2007
high functioning autism.

Though there's no proof she was HFA, just a theory and a private investigator's website.

google "madeleine+autism" and see what you get.
 
posted by [identity profile] lixa-turner.livejournal.com at 08:13pm on 13/09/2007
I don't believe they had anything to do with the abduction. I can't understand why or how you'd leave three children on their own - and if they'd got Madeleine back I think they should have been prosecuted for neglect - but I can't honestly see how they did it. Whenever I'm looking after my brother, I don't let him out of my sight, and I pratically tape the baby moniter to my ear if he's sleeping. I won't even go as far as the garden.

The (Portuguese) media keep going on about a syringe and sedation, which confuses me. Are they talking about a proper syringe and proper sedatives, or one of those droplet plastic syringes for children and a child painkiller?
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 08:32pm on 13/09/2007
Oh, I do. I do very much think they did it. They may never be convicted for it, having Pinochet's lawyer and all, but i highly think they did it.

Lots of people suspected them in May. I didnt really think about it, but having a daughter the same age, it's on my mind. A LOT.

If all 3 children were sedated, why would the McCann's think they'd get up and escape or hurt themselves or whatever? That way they could party for hours, or bury Madeleine, without having to worry about what the twins were getting up to.

Selfish thoughtless and heavily intoxicated, if the tapas restaurant bill reporting 14 bottles of wine between 7 adults is true...

Neither of them acts like they're grieving the absence / abduction of their child, they act like they're on a tour of Europe, getting rich and famous without actually accomplishing anything. Kate in particular acts like she's guilty, and Gerry dodges questions and acts like he's lying. I've seen all the interviews. They're GUILTY.

My mommy radar wouldn't let my kid out of my sight, but if my carelessness had caused her death, i'd be the first one out in front of a bus to punish myself - i'd never be able to live with it, let alone meet the fucking Pope and shake his hand.

They're guilty, and its going to come out. Whether they do time is about the PJ's evidence gathering skills vs Pinochet's lawyer, which doesn't look good. But they're GUILTY. Even if they get off, they'll lose the twins, they'll never hold down jobs, their marriage will bust up and they are ruined for life.

And they deserve that and more if they had a hand in killing Maddie. As is, it just looks like they tried to hide their poor parenting skills by disposing of her body.

Poor precious thing trusted them to look out for her. It really makes me want to cry.

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posted by [identity profile] lixa-turner.livejournal.com at 08:47pm on 13/09/2007
I don't see how they could have evaded the media long enough to move the body. If they kept her alive for so many days before actually killing her, surely it'd be noticeable if they kept going back to the place where she was hidden. I can't see the media ceasing to follow them long enopugh for them to bury a body.

They're not rich; that money is for Madeleine's fund - and, by the looks of it, they have enough money anyway. Kate's a Catholic (devout or not), so flying off to visit the Pope isn't exactly suspicious. I'm not exactly devout, but if something like that had happened to me, just about the only place I'd be able to get any hope would be from the Church or the Pope.

I think the Portuguese police screwed it up from the beginning - not because they're inept, but because they've never had toi deal with anything like this before and so don't know where to start. Why did they make Murat a suspect? Because he lives nearby, speaks English and was trying to hel? The parents are now the only people connected with the hotel that they can trace - anyone who kidnapped/killed Maddy would have fled long ago - and so the police have made them suspects because they have absolutely no other leads.
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 08:55pm on 13/09/2007
They made Murat a suspect because of the abduction red herring the McCanns threw out there in the beginning!

It was only when they realised Murat was innocent, that they had to look elsewhere.

The MCcanns have been under surveilance for over a month now. Emails, phone calls, video. They're guilty. The PJ know it, too.

One of their friends got rid of the body when they were gone to the Vatican. Why else hire a car 1 day before you're leaving the country??? What use is it, except to enable your mates to transport the body while you [and all the media's cameras] are looking Vatican-wards?

Do parents who have lost their daughter smile like this?
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/colomom/610x.jpg
No, they dont. They act like they're on a freaking tour as groupies or some shit. Or the couple who won the national lottery.

I'd be on my hands and knees searching the countryside for my kid, with tear laden swollen fat eyelids, no makeup, no earrings except the ones i sleep in, no fancy hairdos. Probably no shower, come to think of it.
 
posted by [identity profile] lixa-turner.livejournal.com at 09:05pm on 13/09/2007
It was the police who made Murat a suspect, not the McCanns.

Okay, so if they're obviously guilty, why have the police waited 133 days to arrest them? As far as I can see, it's "oh no, the parents are leaving the country (like they've been planning to for weeks) and we have absolutely no leads, so let's do something to make it look like we aren't completely incompetant".

If the friends are guilty and implicated in the crime, why haven't the police pulled them in for gruelling questioning? For the same reason, wehy did they only have the car for a day and then decide the key suspects could have it back? Not exactly preserving the crime scene, is it?

They don't look like radiant smiles to me. And why not pose for one photograph, so that if your daughter or her abductor happens to be watching, it gives the message of hope and lets her know they won't be giving up?
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 09:10pm on 13/09/2007
Yes, the PJ made Murat a suspect. Its late, i have a migraine, and i possibly wasn't clear. But the 'she's been ABDUCTED!' theory put out there by the McCanns is what started it, and their insistence to this day that's what happened is what kept the PJ from looking closer to home for the kid.

Pose for ONE photograph? Heh. All they do any more is bask in the camera flashes, that they engineered themselves by misdirecting the media and the PJ. Its sick.

Kate called Sky NEWS before she called the police that night, for heaven's sake.

The PJ are just trying to make certain that they WILL SUCCEED when they pull them in - they were slow to suspect the McCanns, and that's where they bungled it all up - the world is watching. They HAVE to get it right, so they're being slow and cautious.

As regards the Tapas9, aka McCanns' friends, they will be pulled in soon, reports say. So keep your eyes peeled to Sky News or some other reputable source. The Beeb is under orders to quell reports, so stick with someone who isnt ruled by government.
 
posted by [identity profile] lixa-turner.livejournal.com at 09:17pm on 13/09/2007
You return to your apartemtn, find your daughter missing - of course you're going to scream "she's been adbucted". And why did the police go to Murat's house rather than anyone else's? Because they didn't have a clue.

The last picture towards the bottom of <a href="http://www.findmadeleine.com/>this</a> page shows them with happy smiles. The pictures taken after Madeleine's disappearance look more like grimaces than anything else. Where on earth does it say that she called Sky first? There was a delay before finding her missing and the police arriving, but they could have been checking the area for her, and the police didn't exactly drop everything and race straight out there.
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 09:23pm on 13/09/2007
I'll find you a link about her calling Sky first. She raised the alarm re missing kid at 10.06 and at 10.11, a call was made to sky news.

If i went to my apartment and found my kid missing, which i would never do because i'm not that fucking stupid as to leave her alone,, but saying i did, i'd be screaming 'SHE's GONE' or 'SHE's MISSING' - why the instant leap to abduction? The kid could've wandered off, if as is widely reported, the front door was unlocked. Which leads to the street mind you. She could've fallen in a pool and drowned. She could've gone to the street and been picked up or hit by a car.

I would not instantly assume someone had taken her.

I know about the family portrait on the blatant McCann PR website, findmadeleine.com. But that's Gerry's website - you can't believe a word you read on it!

Migraine. Bedtime.
 
posted by [identity profile] lixa-turner.livejournal.com at 09:46pm on 13/09/2007
Well, I'm not budging.

I hope your migraine gets better soon. Could you ask about pizotifen? I don't know if it'd be any good for you, but I haven't had a single migraine, and only one headache, since I started taking it. My dad's on it and hasn't had a migraine in over 7 months.
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 07:20am on 14/09/2007
Tried pizotifen before, didnt get much but an voracious appetite from it.

All gone today, it was from sleep deprivation.

I'm not budging either, and the papers will see me right.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=481700&in_page_id=1811&ct=5
 
posted by [identity profile] lixa-turner.livejournal.com at 10:39am on 14/09/2007
What, so just because you say your three younger kids are hyperactive and exhausting it means you killed one of them? Young kids *are* hyepr, and husbands don't do the washing up. Doesn't make you a murderer if you're in that situation.
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 11:10am on 14/09/2007
No, I didnt say that. Hell if i did i'd be a total hypocrite, and I won't for one minute crucify Kate on her diary. I had one saying many of the same things and got into trouble with it, remember?
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 10:32am on 14/09/2007
http://www.correiodamanha.pt/noticia.asp?id=257082&idselect=181&idCanal=181&p=0

"Na noite de 3 de Maio Kate ligou primeiro para a televisão britânica Sky News e só depois para a polícia."

Translation provided by Babel Fish:

"In the night of 3 of Kate May it bound first for the British television Sky News and alone later for the police."

I dont speak portuguese but Babel Fish tells me she called Sky News FIRST and then the PJ!!
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 09:00pm on 13/09/2007
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/74133988.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B18D6B6E960467F6EEBB6E862E9690C

That was taken on her birthday.

Can you imagine grinning like that, 9 days after your kid has been taken, on what would have been her fourth birthday????

THAT is why i think they're guilty. Amongst other reasons - fluids in the car that show evidence of great sedation consumption, hair in the car, sniffer dogs going apeshit at the car, cuddle cat, the bible, Kate's clothes, DNA, etc.
 
posted by [identity profile] lixa-turner.livejournal.com at 09:06pm on 13/09/2007
Again, message of hope, encouraged to see the balloons held by a young person and knowing that there are others out there who want Madeleine to be found as much as they do?
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 09:13pm on 13/09/2007
9 days after she was gone, ON HER BIRTHDAY?!?!?!?

Do you know what kind of condition I'd be in, on my daughter's birthday, if she were missing, or indeed dead because of something i'd done?

Motherhood makes you weak, crazy even, with the urge to PROTECT. Its a bond that is beyond marriage, beyond spousal love, beyond anything. Madeleine was a part of Kate's body like pumpkin is a part of mine. She came out of me. I would give my life for hers. I dont know how else to put it into words, but its beyond love, beyond responsibility.

Kate doesn't act like a mother, let alone a grieving one. I'm sorry. And if you go to youtube and watch the interviews, Kate is guilty acting, and Gerry is a liar, tugging his ears and misdirecting the interviewer and partially answering questions.
 
posted by [identity profile] gorkonslady.livejournal.com at 10:44am on 16/09/2007
I´m sharing your opinion. That couldn´t be a mother, who really love her kids. If so, she wouldn´t act like this at all. I think, the McCanns had been feeling disturbed for beeing not free enough to have some nice evenings. That would be the reason for killing Maddy (accidently?!). Damn, they have 3 kids. Isn´t it possible for the McCann´s to organize a perfect holiday for the whole family? It´s just a thought, but putting the pills anywhere, where the kid could maybe catch them, that´s more than negligent! They are guilty, no doubt!
 
posted by [identity profile] leoniedelt.livejournal.com at 10:58am on 16/09/2007
The only thing I wouldn't cricify her on is her diary - i've *nearly* been in lot of trouble for saying the same things about my kid, my husband etc! Name one mom out there who doesn't feel her husband could do more and that she's exhausted from dealing with kids!

However... there's something very wrong. Body language says that she (and Gerry) are lying, hiding something. I just want to know what it is.

I trust doctors, GPs and cardiologists, to follow their own advice re kids and not leave them unattended for fuck's sake!

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